Fabrice Facorat: Cooker : The Inside Man III

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Fabrice Facorat: Cooker : The Inside Man III - [EN] Indeed, Cooker the inside man is back ! There's many things that happen since the last time. This edition will try sum up what's happen since the beginning of november.

• Future of the sleep/suspend/hibername infrastruture : Colin Guthrie noticed that in order to solve a bug he had ( bug #25776[1] ), he need to play with suspend scripts. However he noticed that there was severals implementations and was willing to know which one Mandriva was going to choose [2]. Mandriva was using pmsuspend, but it seems that others implementations could offer more features. Finally on Olivier Blin advice, it was decide to switch to pm-utils which is a freedesktop project and is used by Fedora. Stefan Seyfried from Suse/Novell participate also in the conversation by saying that they were also working on pm-utils and that there was also Suspend2 support which may come in pm-utils. So it seems that Mandriva is going to switch to pm-utils, the only things remaining being to package pm-utils and test it.
  +--- [1] http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=25776
  +--- [2] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg00802.php
• Urpmi 4.9.x and urpmi future : Pixel proposed for testing urpmi 4.9.0[1] which includes many change especially regarding synthesis/hdlist files treatment. This version include list support removal, code cleanup and urpm.pm splitting in severals modules, locking fixes ( 4.9.1 ), "with ...." option depreciation.
  Olivier Thauvin pointed out that some of the changes were radical and that they should have been discussed before. This also stressed out the lack of documentation ( or at least easy to localised documentation ). David BARTH ( Mandriva CTO ) jump in the conversation and noticed that the situation may improved with the migration of the wiki from Twiki to MediaWiki to the new location http://wiki.mandriva.com.
  Vincent Danen pointed out that a beta version of the wiki was available on his server[3] and pages that may need to be rewritten was listed on http://mdv.vmlinuz.ca/Category:HouseKeeping. Fabrice FACORAT noted also that Mandriva Tools need to have more complete homepage especially to have better visibility for the users and the dev.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02043.php
  +--- [2] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02052.php
  +--- [3] http://mdv.vmlinuz.ca/
• New wiki progress : Vincent Danen post the status[1] of the new wiki which aims to replace the old http://qa.mandriva.com//twiki/bin/view/Main/. Proofreading and review is still needed. Problematics pages can be seens at http://mdv.vmlinuz.ca/Category:HouseKeeping and everybody is invitated to participate in the process of improving the content. Vincent asked also to no longer edit the old wiki but update the new one instead[2]
  As people was having issues to connect to the site, a fixed was posted; users just need to add the following line in their /etc/sysctl.conf file :
  net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0
  This bug is due to changes in the linux kernel about TCP window scaling as reported in bug #27073. A fix will be included in the next 2007.0 kernel update.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02500.php
  +--- [2] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02750.php
• Media or not media ? : Adam Williamson re-opened the debate about the way to call urpmi's package sources[1]. Indeed media doesn't seems to be sufficient as it confused many users/newbies. Severals proposals were made like location, place, depot, deposit, collection, resources, channels, repository and so on ... However no final decision was made and Adam agreed to eventually start a poll on MandrivaClub forum.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02514.php
• GNOME 2.17 : Frederic Crozat was back from holiday and announced the introduction of Gnome 2.17 in Cooker[1]
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02617.php
• Beryl introduction to 2007.0 contrib/backports and how to manage backports media efficiently : While Olivier Blin was introducing the beryl 0.1.2 package in 2007.0 contrib/backports[1], he noted that there was no way to handle correctly testing/backports media without having package from theses media installed with "urpmi --auto-select". He proposed to introduced a new urpmi option ( --no-ignore ) and marked backports media as ignore by default. Adam Williamson proposed to add a new option to urpmi which will allow to install only packages from updates ( security/bugfix ) media or changed --auto-update behaviour[2]. Fabrice FACORAT questionned the need to do such a big in urpmi behaviour as the "--update" option already exist for this specific purpose. At the same time Pixel proposed to just slightly change the "--auto-update --update" behaviour of urpmi[3].
  Guillaume Rousse proposed to completly removed the "--update" option and implement group support in urpmi instead. No final decision was taken, but it seems that --update will stay and urpmi may gain group support.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-11/msg02740.php
  +--- [2] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00136.php
  +--- [3] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00286.php
• Toward a major rewrite of urpmi options : Olivier Thauvin noticed that urpmi was faster, maybe too fast[1] ... Indeed he was suspecting that urpmi was no longer use hdlist for parsing but synthesis files instead. This was for him a big mistake as synthesis files don't allow to copie with file based dependencies and have some serious potential drawbacks. Pixel confirm that indeed urpmi was about to rely by default on synthesis files instead of hdlist ones by default for dependencies discovery. Fabrice FACORAT noted at the same time that urpmf should be merged with urpmq as they were mostly doing the same things[2].
  Fabrice FACORAT proposed also to rename some urpmq and urpmi options to make them be more similar to rpm ones[3]. Pixel ask for someone to make a manpage merging *all* options together in order for him to have a starting point and a reference for the options he will implements. Fabrice FACORAT proposed also to merged urpmi.addmedia, urpmi.removemedia and urpmi.update in urpmi.media[4]. Michael Scherer however warned against the risk of going too far in the merging process and thus lose the ability to do fine grained restrictions with sudo.
  Still on the same thread Pixel and Olivier Thauvin agreed on the fact that the synthesis format needed to be rewrite especially if urpmi was going to use it by default. Indeed new features in rpm 4.4.6 like DIRNAME and SYMLINK dependencies make that synthesis don't contain enough information. However hdlists are way too big for normal usage. Olivier inform us he was already working with the help of Rafael Garcia Suarez on a new format using YAML output from "rpm -qf"[5]. While the new format it 10 times bigger than previous synthesis one, it still way smaller than hdlist. Fabrice FACORAT point out that this format should be somewhat optimised to allow to reduced rpmdrake/urpmi parsing time[6].

  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00194.php
  +--- [2] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00319.php
  +--- [3] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00334.php
  +--- [4] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00418.php
  +--- [5] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00289.php
  +--- [6] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00338.php

• Adding Suggest support in urpmi/perl-URPM : Liam R E Quin in a sub-thread of latest urpmi express the desire to have Suggest support in urpmi[1]. Pixel agreed on this, as rpm has now Suggest support, there's just need to had support for this in urpmi/perl-URPM and use them in the rpm packages.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00447.php
• About including Xorg 7.2RC and Mesa 6.5.2 : Colin Guthrie found that cooker was too stable and proposed to introduced Xorg 7.2RC and Mesa 6.5.2 in cooker[1]. Gustavo Pichorim Boiko, the Mandriva Xorg maintener, agreed with him and said that Xorg 7.2 was about to land soon in Cooker. However it seems that there may have a need to update the drm part in the kernel which will means a new kernel release also.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00306.php
• Making the mirroring process more reliable : Kzot (?) noticed that the mirroring process was once more broken[1]. Olivier Thauvin confirmed that the main mirror server at Mandriva had a disk crash which cause the mirroring process to stop. As Mandriva had already undergo many disks failures, some people suggest that there's a need to find a way to exorcized Mandriva headquaters as there seems to have a curse. Before having to use so extremes solutions, Olivier Thauvin proposed to use Distrib-coffee as a backup server for main Mandriva rsync server and to use the new tools his developping to managed them : MMM[2]. Olivier Thauvin also ask for contributions to help improve the tool. No final decisions was taken, but it's true this issue need to be taken seriously as this si not the first time that Mandriva have theses kinds of issues.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00404.php
  +--- [2] http://mmm.zarb.org/
• Move from /mnt to /media in 2007.1 : Pixel announced that Mandriva is finally moving from /mnt to /media.[1]
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00421.php
• Moving gtk1.2 apps to contribs : Lenny Cartier proposed to move all remaining gtk1.2 applications to contrib[1]. As Xdialog was on the list, Adam Williamson proposed to rebuild it but against gtk2 as Xdialog was heavily used.
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00431.php
• Announcing cooker snapshot #1 : David Barth announced the first Cooker snapshot for 2007.1 and the steps required to have a good release[1]. This snapshot includes many changes with some being radical :
  - main and contrib cleanups with the aim to reduce main by 20% and update contrib
  - kde 3.5.5
  - Gnome 2.17
  - Firefox 2.0 : when Firefox 2.0 will be stabilized in cooker, Firefox 2.0.1 will then be put in 2007.0 backports
  - drakxtools splitting : drakxtools are now splitted in several packages to allow easier maintenance and speed-up the development
  - Many changes and fixes in net_applet and rpmdrake
  - Major urpmi cleanups and rewrite
  - Mandriva will now use grub as default bootloader and this one will have new eyecandies thanks to gfxboot
  - Mandriva online improvements (client and server), some rumors even say that it may become a free service
  - Other middleware and FSSTND changes like the move to /media
  +--- [1] http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker/2006-12/msg00453.php

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