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‎Running Live on weak computers

← Older revision Revision as of 16:53, 27 January 2026 Line 496: Line 496:  === Running Live on weak computers === === Running Live on weak computers ===    −* Using persistence save on RAM compared to using a ramdisk which otherwise is used.+* Using '''persistence''' save on RAM compared to using a ramdisk which otherwise is used. −* Use swap to free more RAM - [[#Swap_file|add a swap file]] or partition: [[#Custom_partitioning|Custom partitioning]]. ''A few hundred MB is enough unless you want to hibernate.''+* Use '''swap''' to free more RAM - [[#Swap_file|add a swap file]] or partition: [[#Custom_partitioning|Custom partitioning]]. ''A few hundred MB is enough unless you want to hibernate.'' −* Use a '''lightweight desktop''' such as Xfce, or one of our even lighter desktops - IceWM is installed in all Lives already. ''Note that you can have several desktops installed and choose at each login which to use.''+* Use a '''lightweight desktop''' such as {{Prog|Xfce}}, or one of our even lighter desktops - {{Prog|IceWM}} is installed in all Lives already. ''Note that you can have several desktops installed and choose at each login which to use.'' −* The third party '''lightweight desktop {{Prog|Trinity}}''' ''(forked KDE3)'' include a plethora of relatively lightweight programs. [[Desktop_environments#TDE_Trinity_Desktop_Environment|Installation instructions here.]]+** {{Prog|Trinity}} ''(forked KDE3)'' includes a plethora of relatively lightweight programs. [[Desktop_environments#TDE_Trinity_Desktop_Environment|Installation instructions here.]] −* Use light weight programs. i.e Falkon for web browsing, and Gwenview for browsing-cropping-resizing photos. ''(Even Xfce by default use the heavy Firefox and Gimp, respectively)''+* Use '''light weight programs'''. i.e Falkon for web browsing, and Gwenview for browsing-cropping-resizing photos. ''(Even Xfce by default use the heavy Firefox and Gimp, respectively)'' −* If you have more than 2GBs of RAM available in your old computer, you could install firejail to run certain programs on the RAM. It is significantly faster than the USB stick (especially USB 2.0). But it also means that you will not be able to save almost anything. - But restrictions can altered: see the options "read-only" and "read-write" here: {{cmd|man firejail}}, {{cmd|firejail --help}}. The following have been tested with lightweight window managers.+* If you have more than 2GBs of RAM available in your old computer, you could install {{prog|firejail}} to run certain programs on the RAM. It is significantly faster than the USB stick (especially USB 2.0). But it also means restrictions on saving files. One workaround may be to copy the file link and then in a text console {{cmd|wget thatlink}}. Restrictions can be altered: see documentation by executing {{cmd|man firejail}}, {{cmd|firejail --help}}. The following examples have been tested: − Example commands:     firejail --private falkon   firejail --private falkon    firejail --private firefox   firejail --private firefox Morgano

← Older revision Revision as of 16:43, 27 January 2026 Line 6: Line 6:     Marc Marc  +  +  +Hi Marc  +Correct, please do :-)  +Next time you see such thing, just go ahead and fix!  +Best Regards  +/Morgan  +  +  +  ---------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------    Morgano

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← Older revision Revision as of 16:33, 27 January 2026 Line 1: Line 1:  +Hello Morgan,  +  +I saw a small typo in your addition about Trinity:  +  +"In addition the the instructions there": first "the" should be "to", I think?  +  +Marc  +----------------------------------------  +  Hi Morgan, Hi Morgan,    Marchugo

translated an addition from Morgano 27.01.2026

← Older revision Revision as of 16:27, 27 January 2026 Line 126: Line 126:  Trinity [http://trinitydesktop.org/] is een onafhankelijke voortzetting van desktop-omgeving KDE 3.5. Het is een naar moderne maatstaven lichtgewicht, maar competente en volwassen desktop. Trinity [http://trinitydesktop.org/] is een onafhankelijke voortzetting van desktop-omgeving KDE 3.5. Het is een naar moderne maatstaven lichtgewicht, maar competente en volwassen desktop.    −[https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Mageia_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions]+Zie hier voor installatie-instructies voor Trinity: [https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Mageia_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions]  +   +Als extraatje naast de instructies voor de Trinity bureaublad-omgeving, kunt u onze gereedschappen eventueel opdracht geven te zoeken naar "updates", voor het geval die daar zijn uitgegeven. Om dit te doen, geeft u op de commandoregel de opdracht: {{cmd|drakrpm-editmedia --expert}}. Ook plaatst u vinkjes in de kolom "Updates", links van de Trinity pakketdepots.     == Inloggen op andere bureaublad-omgevingen == == Inloggen op andere bureaublad-omgevingen == Marchugo

‎Running Live on weak computers: moved Trinity to point after other desktops, added tip on firejail file access

← Older revision Revision as of 15:46, 27 January 2026 (One intermediate revision by the same user not shown)Line 498: Line 498:  * Using persistence save on RAM compared to using a ramdisk which otherwise is used. * Using persistence save on RAM compared to using a ramdisk which otherwise is used.  * Use swap to free more RAM - [[#Swap_file|add a swap file]] or partition: [[#Custom_partitioning|Custom partitioning]]. ''A few hundred MB is enough unless you want to hibernate.'' * Use swap to free more RAM - [[#Swap_file|add a swap file]] or partition: [[#Custom_partitioning|Custom partitioning]]. ''A few hundred MB is enough unless you want to hibernate.'' −* Use a lightweight desktop such as Xfce, or one of our even lighter desktops - IceWM is installed in all Lives already. ''Note that you can have several desktops installed and choose at each login which to use.''+* Use a '''lightweight desktop''' such as Xfce, or one of our even lighter desktops - IceWM is installed in all Lives already. ''Note that you can have several desktops installed and choose at each login which to use.''  +* The third party '''lightweight desktop {{Prog|Trinity}}''' ''(forked KDE3)'' include a plethora of relatively lightweight programs. [[Desktop_environments#TDE_Trinity_Desktop_Environment|Installation instructions here.]]  * Use light weight programs. i.e Falkon for web browsing, and Gwenview for browsing-cropping-resizing photos. ''(Even Xfce by default use the heavy Firefox and Gimp, respectively)'' * Use light weight programs. i.e Falkon for web browsing, and Gwenview for browsing-cropping-resizing photos. ''(Even Xfce by default use the heavy Firefox and Gimp, respectively)'' −* If you have more than 2GBs of RAM available in your old computer, you could install firejail to run certain programs on the RAM. It is significantly faster than the USB stick (especially USB 2.0). But it also means that you will not be able to save almost anything. The following have been tested with lightweight window managers.+* If you have more than 2GBs of RAM available in your old computer, you could install firejail to run certain programs on the RAM. It is significantly faster than the USB stick (especially USB 2.0). But it also means that you will not be able to save almost anything. - But restrictions can altered: see the options "read-only" and "read-write" here: {{cmd|man firejail}}, {{cmd|firejail --help}}. The following have been tested with lightweight window managers.    Example commands:   Example commands:    firejail --private falkon   firejail --private falkon    firejail --private firefox   firejail --private firefox    firejail --private --appimage ~/apps/librewolf/LibreWolf.x86_64.AppImage   firejail --private --appimage ~/apps/librewolf/LibreWolf.x86_64.AppImage −* You can set your web browser to prefer the, much lighter, mobile version of a website (provided that there is a mobile version), instead of the standard version. Depending on the website, the experience may vary from "great" to "dysfunctional". The easiest way to do that is to install an extension like [https://addons.mozilla.org/el/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/  User Agent Switcher and Manager], and then customize your web browser's User Agent, to something like...+* You can set your web browser to prefer the much lighter mobile version of a website (provided that there is a mobile version), instead of the standard version. Depending on the website, the experience may vary from "great" to "dysfunctional". The easiest way to do that is to install an extension like [https://addons.mozilla.org/el/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/  User Agent Switcher and Manager], and then customize your web browser's User Agent, to something like...    Mozilla/5.0 (Android 15; Mobile; rv:145.0) Gecko/145.0 Firefox/145.0   Mozilla/5.0 (Android 15; Mobile; rv:145.0) Gecko/145.0 Firefox/145.0  Unfortunately some browsers currently do not have such working extensions (e.g. Falkon, SeaMonkey). Unfortunately some browsers currently do not have such working extensions (e.g. Falkon, SeaMonkey). −* [[Desktop_environments#TDE_Trinity_Desktop_Environment | Trinity (KDE3)]] has a plethora of relatively lightweight programs. You will need to enable Trinity's rpm repositories, in order to access their applications. Tip in a tip: Using Mageia's tools (<code>drakrpm-edit-media</code>) will help you mark Trinity's software media as update media.      == Caution == == Caution == Morgano

‎TDE Trinity Desktop Environment

← Older revision Revision as of 15:16, 27 January 2026 Line 119: Line 119:     [https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Mageia_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions Mageia Trinity Repository Installation Instructions] [https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Mageia_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions Mageia Trinity Repository Installation Instructions]  +  +In addition the the instructions there, you may want to tell our tools to look for '''updates''' in case they are released there. To do so, execute {{cmd|drakrpm-editmedia --expert}} and put check marks in the "Updates" column before the Trinity repositories.     == Logging in to other desktop environments == == Logging in to other desktop environments == Morgano

‎Testing: Updating

← Older revision Revision as of 15:06, 27 January 2026 (2 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)Line 67: Line 67:  * Your favourite software we have in our repositories. * Your favourite software we have in our repositories.  * [[Ways_to_install_programs|Other software of interest]] - But do not "bug" us of issues not related to Mageia. * [[Ways_to_install_programs|Other software of interest]] - But do not "bug" us of issues not related to Mageia.  +  +==== Updating ===  +  +Now during development, packages are updated directly over elder packages in release repositories, and our updater tools look for updates there.     ==== Upgrading from Mageia 9 ==== ==== Upgrading from Mageia 9 ==== Line 75: Line 79:  * Follow normal [[Mageia_10_Release_Notes#Upgrading_from_Mageia_9|upgrade procedures]]. * Follow normal [[Mageia_10_Release_Notes#Upgrading_from_Mageia_9|upgrade procedures]].  * And account for: [[#Release_repositories_do_change|Release repositories do change]]. * And account for: [[#Release_repositories_do_change|Release repositories do change]].  +* Notable problems (read for workaround) at time of writing this:  +** {{Bug|34966}} - kwin_x11 not installed anymore after an upgrade  +** {{Bug|35063}} - Unable to upgrade Mageia10-alpha1 due to certificate error     ''Alternatively you may like to upgrade to [[Cauldron|Cauldron]]. Note that you would shortly after Mageia 10 release probably want to switch repositories from Cauldron to Mageia 10.'' ''Alternatively you may like to upgrade to [[Cauldron|Cauldron]]. Note that you would shortly after Mageia 10 release probably want to switch repositories from Cauldron to Mageia 10.'' −<!--  −==== Updating an installed system ====     −To get updates, you must set your system to get updates from the release repository. -[[Release_repositories_do_change|Release repositories do change]] during this development phase!  −  −# Like normal, you need to have set up repositories.  −# Then one way is to add a checkmark in updates column for release repositories using our tool {{prog|drakrpm-editmedia}}. -But to be able to change updates repository, you need to launch it in expert mode like so:  {{cmd|drakrpm-editmedia --expert}}.  −  −Then after Mageia is finally released, unset release repositories from being update repositories.   −-->   ==== Found a problem? ==== ==== Found a problem? ==== − +* Do the problem go away after updating the system?  * See [[#Current_status|Current status]], [[#Current_notes|Current notes]], and [[#Expected_problems|Expected problems]] below. * See [[#Current_status|Current status]], [[#Current_notes|Current notes]], and [[#Expected_problems|Expected problems]] below.  * Search for if it is already described in [[Mageia_10_Errata|the Errata]] or if it is told in [[Mageia_10_Release_Notes|Release Notes]]. * Search for if it is already described in [[Mageia_10_Errata|the Errata]] or if it is told in [[Mageia_10_Release_Notes|Release Notes]]. Line 103: Line 101:  == Current notes == == Current notes ==  '' To be revised at each pre-release release (remove old stuff), and updated any time needed.''<br> '' To be revised at each pre-release release (remove old stuff), and updated any time needed.''<br> −''' ''Revised 2026-01-11'' '''<br>+''' ''Revised 2026-01-27'' '''<br>  Current version of ISOs: '''10alpha1''' ''(from internal round 2)''<br> Current version of ISOs: '''10alpha1''' ''(from internal round 2)''<br>  === Prominent enhancements comparing to Mageia 9 === === Prominent enhancements comparing to Mageia 9 ===  +* Updated applications, desktops, basesystems, drivers, kernel...<br>  ''For more complete list see Release Notes.'' ''For more complete list see Release Notes.'' −* Kernel series: default is 6.12.63 LTS (so used in Live ISOs). Available in repos: 6.18.4 LTS+==== 10alpha1 ==== −* Updated desktops and other software of course.+* Kernel series: default is 6.12.63 LTS (so used in Live ISOs). ''Available in repos: '''6.18.7+''' LTS'' −==== Upcoming next pre-release ====+==== Upcoming next pre-release - 10beta1 ====  * Classic installer wifi support {{Bug|32125}} * Classic installer wifi support {{Bug|32125}}  * Updated hardware detection * Updated hardware detection Morgano