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On Thu, 15 May 2008 21:40:32 +0200 (CEST)
Paulo Andrade wrote:

> Name        : x11-driver-video-geode       Relocations: (not
> relocatable) Version     : 2.9.0                             Vendor:
> Mandriva Release     : 1mdv2009.0                    Build Date: Thu
> May 15 21:27:17 2008 Install Date: (not installed)
> Build Host: n4.mandriva.com Group       :
> System/X11                    Source RPM: (none) Size        :
> 594355      License: MIT Signature   : (none)
> Packager    : Paulo Andrade <pcpa@...>

To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
installed: Package                        Version      Release
Arch (medium "main")
  filezilla                      3.0.10       0.rc2.1mdv20> i586    
  ldetect-lst                    0.1.224      1mdv2009.0    i586    
  x11-driver-video               1.0.0        14mdv2009.0   i586    
  x11-driver-video-amd           2.7.7.7      1mdv2009.0    i586    
  x11-driver-video-geode         2.9.0        1mdv2009.0    i586    
  xlockmore                      5.25         2mdv2009.0    i586    
634KB of additional disk space will be used.
4.2MB of packages will be retrieved.
Proceed with the installation of the 6 packages? (Y/n) y



Preparing...#############################################
Installation failed:
        file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ztv_drv.la conflicts between
attempted installs of x11-driver-video-geode-2.9.0-1mdv2009.0.i586 and
x11-driver-video-amd-2.7.7.7-1mdv2009.0.i586
file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ztv_drv.so conflicts between
attempted installs of x11-driver-video-geode-2.9.0-1mdv2009.0.i586 and
x11-driver-video-amd-2.7.7.7-1mdv2009.0.i586



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Colin Guthrie wrote:
> Steve Morris wrote:
>>  The issue now is that the
>> application that is using most of the power when I am doing my
>> development work I can't do anything about, which is java consuming
>> 67.5% of the power usage, it is a bit hard to do java development
>> without java (I am using eclipse and netbeans). What I don't
>> understand, assuming my assumptions are correct, is that assuming the
>> power consumptions by java hasn't changed from 1.6.0.4 to 1.6.0.6,
>> why is 2008.1 more sensitive to it than 2008.0 was. The 1.6.0.4
>> version was directly from Sun whereas the 1.6.0.6 version is
>> Mandrivas version.
>
> One thing to check is that you are definately using Sun's Java for
> eclipse and not using e.g. gcj's version.
>
> You should be able to check with simply java -version.
>
> As they are all handled by an alternatives system it's entirly
> possibly you are actually using the slower/more hungry java VM.
>
> Also check which java is actually running (via the paths in ps aux |
> grep java) as there may be some old hardcoded paths somewhere in
> either eclipse or netbeans.
>
> I'm no java dev nor user, but I've noticed such things before.
>
> Col
> Thanks Col, I will check this out. I don't think I am using gcj as I uninstalled 1.6.0.6 to try the version from sun to check its power
consumption, and wasn't able to install sun's version as it requires
libstdc++5 whereas I have libstdc++6 installed, hence the running java
is presumably 1.7 which I had installed as well. In this situation
powertop indicated that the % interrupts from java dropped by about 10%.
Also I attempted to uninstall Java 1.7 and rpmdrake complained that
openoffice needed java installed.

regards,
Steve


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Gustavo De Nardin (spuk) wrote:
> * Steve Morris <samorris@...> [2008-05-16 07:18 +1000]:
>  
>> Colin Guthrie wrote:
>>    
>>> Sam Bailey wrote:
>>>      
>>>>>> Try to disable slide-show in Kdesktop.
>>>>>>            
>>>>> it already is as I have the screensaver completely disabled.
>>>>>          
>>>> As have I on my machines.
>>>>
>>>> Is pasuspender the best to stop pulseaudio? or does it just reduce
>>>> the load a
>>>> little bit?
>>>>        
>>> pasuspender tells pulse to release the audio device, but it will still
>>> be running through it's mainloop. It should help, but I wouldn't use
>>> this as a technique to reduce pulse's use of CPU cycles.
>>>      
>> Col, I have installed powertop as you suggested, and actioned its
>> recommendation of turning off hal's polling of the cdrom drive. Its
>> second recommendation I can't action because the facility doesn't exist
>> on my laptop (turning on HPET in the bios). The issue now is that the
>> application that is using most of the power when I am doing my
>> development work I can't do anything about, which is java consuming
>> 67.5% of the power usage, it is a bit hard to do java development
>> without java (I am using eclipse and netbeans). What I don't understand,
>> assuming my assumptions are correct, is that assuming the power
>> consumptions by java hasn't changed from 1.6.0.4 to 1.6.0.6, why is
>> 2008.1 more sensitive to it than 2008.0 was. The 1.6.0.4 version was
>> directly from Sun whereas the 1.6.0.6 version is Mandrivas version.
>>    
>
> Did you measure with powertop the power consumption of java in 2008.0?
>
>   No, I didn't know about powertop then. I am basing my judgement on having implemented powertops suggestions, I am still only getting about
60% of the battery life I was under 2008.0 while using the same
applications.

regards,
Steve


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Le Friday 16 May 2008 07:40:38 fwang, vous avez écrit :
> Author: fwang
> Date: Fri May 16 07:40:37 2008
> New Revision: 208067
>
> Modified:
>    cooker/kdelibs4/current/SPECS/kdelibs4.spec
>
> Log:
> SILENT: bump release

Why ?

[neoclust@n5 kdepimlibs4]$ ls /SRPMS/main/release/kdelibs4-4.0.74-1mdv2009.0.src.rpm
/SRPMS/main/release/kdelibs4-4.0.74-1mdv2009.0.src.rpm


[neoclust@n5 kdepimlibs4]$ ls /main/release/kdelibs4-*
/main/release/kdelibs4-core-4.0.74-1mdv2009.0.i586.rpm  /main/release/kdelibs4-devel-4.0.74-1mdv2009.0.i586.rpm


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Le Friday 16 May 2008 08:09:17 fwang, vous avez écrit :
> Author: fwang
> Date: Fri May 16 08:09:16 2008
> New Revision: 208077
>
> Added:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SOURCES/kdevplatform-4.0.74.tar.bz2  
> (contents, props changed) Removed:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SOURCES/kdevplatform-4.0.73.tar.bz2
> Modified:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SPECS/kdevplatform4.spec
>
> Log:
> New version 4.0.74 I said let kde4 and do not touche PLEASE.

i a m very tired of you, i done all the work on my PC, i a spend a lot of time
( building to see if all was OK ) and YOU  you arrive and you commit, do you
know something about 'work group' ? 'communication' ?  do you know that we
asked you to 'mail' when doing something ? not to mail to tell ' I will do it'
but to ask if someone else wasn't on this task. This attitude is really pissed
me off.

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Le Friday 16 May 2008 08:09:17 fwang, vous avez écrit :
> Author: fwang
> Date: Fri May 16 08:09:16 2008
> New Revision: 208077
>
> Added:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SOURCES/kdevplatform-4.0.74.tar.bz2  
> (contents, props changed) Removed:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SOURCES/kdevplatform-4.0.73.tar.bz2
> Modified:
>    cooker/kdevplatform4/current/SPECS/kdevplatform4.spec
>
> Log:
> New version 4.0.74 I said let kde4 and do not touche PLEASE.

i a m very tired of you, i done all the work on my PC, i a spend a lot of time
( building to see if all was OK ) and YOU  you arrive and you commit, do you
know something about 'work group' ? 'communication' ?  do you know that we
asked you to 'mail' when doing something ? not to mail to tell ' I will do it'
but to ask if someone else wasn't on this task. This attitude is really pissed
me off.

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Nicolas Lécureuil
Mandriva KDE Contributor


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Le Friday 16 May 2008 08:12:54 fwang, vous avez écrit :
> Author: fwang
> Date: Fri May 16 08:12:54 2008
> New Revision: 208078
>
> Added:
>    cooker/kdebindings4/current/SOURCES/kdebindings-4.0.74.tar.bz2  
> (contents, props changed) Removed:
>    cooker/kdebindings4/current/SOURCES/kdebindings-4.0.73-fix-build.patch
>    cooker/kdebindings4/current/SOURCES/kdebindings-4.0.73.tar.bz2
> Modified:
>    cooker/kdebindings4/current/SPECS/kdebindings4.spec
>
> Log:
> New version 4.0.74 where on the svn log will we find that you removed the patch ? and the reason
?

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Le Friday 16 May 2008 07:34:22 fwang, vous avez écrit :
> Author: fwang
> Date: Fri May 16 07:34:21 2008
> New Revision: 208066
>
> Added:
>    cooker/kdebase4/current/SOURCES/kdebase-4.0.74.tar.bz2   (contents,
> props changed) Removed:
>    cooker/kdebase4/current/SOURCES/kdebase-4.0.73.tar.bz2
> Modified:
>    cooker/kdebase4/current/SPECS/kdebase4.spec
>
> Log:
> New version 4.0.74
PLEASE don't touch, i am upgrading, so let this  i started to update as you
saw so what do you update too ????

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2008/5/15 Steve Morris <samorris@...>:
> Having finished installing what appears to be all the associated kde4
> packages, when I now attempt to start kde4 from kdm4, the kde startup cycle
> through all the splash screen animations and then drops back to kdm4. I have
> looked in syslog and there are no kde messages whatsoever. How do I debug
> this issue. Also the kdm4 theme I was using before the migration, has been
> replaced since the migration process, why?

kill remaining kded4 and gam_server process.
Should be fixed shortly by uptream. maybe in 4.0.74



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2008/5/15 Scott Chevalley <avalon@...>:
> I'm having a few issues while using KDE4 that I thought I'd let you guys
> know about.
>
> I am having the previously reported problem with kded4 staying around
> preventing subsequent logons.  But I'm also having issues with the run
> dialog crashing constantly.  Alt-F2 will pop it up, I type an app name in
>  and finds it, but when you hit enter the window locks.  after a few minutes
> it will die and then the app you typed will appear, then a crash dialog will
> appear.

4.0.74 is on its way

> also, I'm not sure if it's a bug, a problem or a feature, but the desktop
> doesn't let you rubber-band select anything.  Click-dragging on the desktop
> does nothing.

there's no really desktop ... the icons are ... plasmoïds.
Do an upstream bug report about the ability to select plasmoïd with
rubber-band select.

> The system also seems much slower in 4.0.73 than I remember in 4.0.3 even.
>
> I'm running compiz-fusion on top of kde4, and i don't know if this causing
> anything,

try without compiz. and test kwin compositing features eventually.



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Steve Morris wrote:
>  The issue now is that the
> application that is using most of the power when I am doing my
> development work I can't do anything about, which is java consuming
> 67.5% of the power usage, it is a bit hard to do java development
> without java (I am using eclipse and netbeans). What I don't understand,
> assuming my assumptions are correct, is that assuming the power
> consumptions by java hasn't changed from 1.6.0.4 to 1.6.0.6, why is
> 2008.1 more sensitive to it than 2008.0 was. The 1.6.0.4 version was
> directly from Sun whereas the 1.6.0.6 version is Mandrivas version.

One thing to check is that you are definately using Sun's Java for
eclipse and not using e.g. gcj's version.

You should be able to check with simply java -version.

As they are all handled by an alternatives system it's entirly possibly
you are actually using the slower/more hungry java VM.

Also check which java is actually running (via the paths in ps aux |
grep java) as there may be some old hardcoded paths somewhere in either
eclipse or netbeans.

I'm no java dev nor user, but I've noticed such things before.

Col


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I'm having a few issues while using KDE4 that I thought I'd let you guys
know about.

I am having the previously reported problem with kded4 staying around
preventing subsequent logons.  But I'm also having issues with the run
dialog crashing constantly.  Alt-F2 will pop it up, I type an app name
in  and finds it, but when you hit enter the window locks.  after a few
minutes it will die and then the app you typed will appear, then a crash
dialog will appear.

also, I'm not sure if it's a bug, a problem or a feature, but the
desktop doesn't let you rubber-band select anything.  Click-dragging on
the desktop does nothing.

The system also seems much slower in 4.0.73 than I remember in 4.0.3 even.

I'm running compiz-fusion on top of kde4, and i don't know if this
causing anything, but at this moment I can't really use kde4 and have
gone back to kde3.  Interestingly enough, some kde4 apps work just fine
under kde3.

Just an FYI.

thanks,
Scott

Having finished installing what appears to be all the associated kde4
packages, when I now attempt to start kde4 from kdm4, the kde startup
cycle through all the splash screen animations and then drops back to
kdm4. I have looked in syslog and there are no kde messages whatsoever.
How do I debug this issue. Also the kdm4 theme I was using before the
migration, has been replaced since the migration process, why?

regards,
Steve


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* Steve Morris <samorris@...> [2008-05-16 07:18 +1000]:
> Colin Guthrie wrote:
> >Sam Bailey wrote:
> >>>>Try to disable slide-show in Kdesktop.
> >>>it already is as I have the screensaver completely disabled.
> >>
> >>As have I on my machines.
> >>
> >>Is pasuspender the best to stop pulseaudio? or does it just reduce
> >>the load a
> >>little bit?
> >
> >pasuspender tells pulse to release the audio device, but it will still
> >be running through it's mainloop. It should help, but I wouldn't use
> >this as a technique to reduce pulse's use of CPU cycles.
> Col, I have installed powertop as you suggested, and actioned its
> recommendation of turning off hal's polling of the cdrom drive. Its
> second recommendation I can't action because the facility doesn't exist
> on my laptop (turning on HPET in the bios). The issue now is that the
> application that is using most of the power when I am doing my
> development work I can't do anything about, which is java consuming
> 67.5% of the power usage, it is a bit hard to do java development
> without java (I am using eclipse and netbeans). What I don't understand,
> assuming my assumptions are correct, is that assuming the power
> consumptions by java hasn't changed from 1.6.0.4 to 1.6.0.6, why is
> 2008.1 more sensitive to it than 2008.0 was. The 1.6.0.4 version was
> directly from Sun whereas the 1.6.0.6 version is Mandrivas version.
Did you measure with powertop the power consumption of java in 2008.0?

Michael Scherer wrote:
> Le jeudi 15 mai 2008 à 22:06 +1000, Steve Morris a écrit :
>  
>> After last nights cooker update, when I boot I get messages about
>> devices pan1 through pan5 not existing. I don't know where these
>> messages are coming from as I can't find any similar messages in
>> syslog,
>> but I have found messages from dhcpclient about renaming pan0 to pan5
>> and pan6 and getting a failure on each. I have also noticed in
>> Network
>> Center that there is now an unconnected pan6 entry. The messages are
>> listed below.
>>    
>
> pan is for personal area networking, a bluetooth profile about
> networking. I guess a quick search on your favorite search engine can
> bring you more information, try "pan0 linux", or you can look on
> wikipedia.
>
>   Thanks Michael, I guess this has come from some package I have installed without realising it.

regards,
Steve


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Colin Guthrie wrote:
> Sam Bailey wrote:
>>>> Try to disable slide-show in Kdesktop.
>>> it already is as I have the screensaver completely disabled.
>>
>> As have I on my machines.
>>
>> Is pasuspender the best to stop pulseaudio? or does it just reduce
>> the load a
>> little bit?
>
> pasuspender tells pulse to release the audio device, but it will still
> be running through it's mainloop. It should help, but I wouldn't use
> this as a technique to reduce pulse's use of CPU cycles. Col, I have installed powertop as you suggested, and actioned its recommendation of turning off hal's polling of the cdrom drive. Its
second recommendation I can't action because the facility doesn't exist
on my laptop (turning on HPET in the bios). The issue now is that the
application that is using most of the power when I am doing my
development work I can't do anything about, which is java consuming
67.5% of the power usage, it is a bit hard to do java development
without java (I am using eclipse and netbeans). What I don't understand,
assuming my assumptions are correct, is that assuming the power
consumptions by java hasn't changed from 1.6.0.4 to 1.6.0.6, why is
2008.1 more sensitive to it than 2008.0 was. The 1.6.0.4 version was
directly from Sun whereas the 1.6.0.6 version is Mandrivas version.

regards,
Steve

>
> Col
>

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Colin Guthrie wrote:
> Steve Morris wrote:
>>> That's why I suggested the click buffer rather than the copying it
>>> directly. You do know about select+middle click for copy+paste like
>>> I described above right? It's the single most useful thing ever!
>>>
>> No, I didn't know about this process, how is it actually used?
>
> As I've said three times now, you select some text to copy, and then
> middle click to paste. :)
Sorry Col, the bit I didn't understand was that selecting the text was
enough to "copy" it.
>
>>> That said, why use eterm anyway??? If you can't use kde stuff,
>>> gnome-console is much nicer!
>> I used eterm because that was the only shell I could find other than
>> xterm in the kde menus. I hadn't realised, that with the install
>> issues with kde4/kde3 at the moment causing my kde4 system to run as
>> a combination of kde4 and kde3, the menu icon for konsole had been
>> wiped and that I needed to pay more attention to the actual menu
>> entry names.
>> What is the name of the gnome-console as I can't see an obvious entry
>> in the menus?
>
> Whoops. I meant gnome-terminal... sorry. That's ok, but as far as I can see gnome-terminal does not appear in any menu entry under the tools structure in kde3 (I haven't checked kde4 yet
as it won't run since the migration)

regards,
Steve

>
> Col
>
>

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Hello,

Sunday ( 18th May ) kde organize a 'bug catch' , during this day testers will
be able to test bugs, and provide more infos on them to allow the devs  to fix
them, or this can help to find duplicate bugs.

The meeting is on the #kde-bugs channel on irc.freenode.net

Each KDE Bug day, there is a focus on a specific kde product,  this day this
will be :

                KONQUEROR


A link is always better than long texts so here it is ;) :
http://dot.kde.org/1210765735/
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Kim Schulz wrote:
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 09:05:47 +0300
> Anssi Hannula <anssi@...> wrote:
>
>> Kim Schulz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 00:43:53 +0300
>>> Anssi Hannula <anssi@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kim Schulz wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Just had to reinstall my cooker box, but now my microsoft wheel
>>>>> mouse does not work anymore.
>>>>> when I move it, it just moves on a vertical line on the middle of
>>>>> the screen. It seems like mouse-button1 is presses randomly while
>>>>> I move the mouse.
>>>>> I have the following in my xorg after installation:
>>>> [...]
>>>>> it is a laptop so thats why I have the synaptics mouse there as
>>>>> well (the touchpad mouse works fine BTW - only the usb mouse does
>>>>> not work).
>>>>>
>>>>> any ideas ?
>>>> Sounds somewhat like the wrong 'usbmouse' driver is used instead of
>>>> the correct 'usbhid'.
>>>>
>>>> Please post output of lsmod and dmesg.
>>>>
>>> it could be it, though I have "blacklist usbmouse" in my
>>> modprobe.conf file.
>> Yep, that's it.
>>
>>> lsmod:
>>>
>>> Module                  Size  Used by
>> [...]
>>> usbhid                 41824  0
>> [...]
>>> usbmouse                4736  0
>> [...]
>>>
>>> dmesg:
>> [...]
>>> input: Microsoft Microsoft USB Wireless Mouse
>>> as /class/input/input17
>> [...]
>>
>
>
> so to fix this I do what?
Report a bug on udev or module-init-tools (i.e. to Olivier Blin).

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Kjel Oslund wrote:
> I'm not sure where to file this one, X or kernel?
>
> I have a Logitech Cordless Desktop S510 USB keyboard/mouse comb.
>
> If I run X (versions 1.4.0.90 16/17/18-mdv2009.0) with kernel
> 2.6.24.4-desktop-1mnb it works correctly. With any 2.6.25.x kernel, I
> get only vertical motion from the mouse. X reports the following errors:

Report to package udev ("load usbhid before usbmouse"), or
module-init-tools ("blacklist usbmouse").

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